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Green Bay Packers Final 2013 Draft Board

Packers GM Ted Thompson and Head Coach Mike McCarthy completed their eight draft together this weekend

Packers GM Ted Thompson and Head Coach Mike McCarthy completed their eight draft together this weekend

The 2013 NFL Draft is in the books which means the Green Bay Packers have made all of their selections and we know who will be joining the team in training camp come late July.  Our team at ALLGBP.com has done a fantastic job in breaking down each of these players and be sure to check out each and get to know your newest Packer players!

Let’s take a look at this year’s full slate of draft picks:

Round 1

26th, 26th overall – Datone Jones, DE, UCLA

Many expected this pick if the Packers were staying put in round one.  Many say Jones was a great value at 26th overall and should start right away.  Helps solidify a position of need.

Round 2

29th, 61st overall (from 49ers) – Eddie Lacy, RB, Alabama

After several draft analysts had Lacy going to the Packers in round one and even before their pick, Green Bay had to be shocked to see him fall into their laps in round two.  Touted by many as the best running back in this year’s class, Lacy was the fourth back taken after Giovani Bernard (Bengals), Le’Veon Bell (Steelers) and Montee Ball (Broncos).  Clearly the Packers wanted Lacy and he will make an immediate impact to a running game that has lacked punch for the past three seasons.

Round 4

12th, 109th overall (from Saints through Dolphins) – David Bakhtiari, OT, Colorado

After trading down a few spots in the fourth round, Thompson opted to add some depth to the Packers offensive line.  Bakhtiari brings all 6’4″, 300 lbs with him to Green Bay and should be given an opportunity to battle with Derek Sherrod (if healthy) and become a starting tackle opposite Bryan Bulaga.  He is versatile, however, and can also play at the guard spot.

25th, 122nd overall – J.C. Tretter, OT, Cornell

Tretter was a bit of a surprise pick here, at least to me.  Just 13 picks after selecting Bakhtiari, the Packers drafted another offensive tackle.  A further glace at Tretter shows that he is more likely to translate in the NFL as a guard or possibly even center.  That versatility is what Packers GM Ted Thompson and Head Coach Mike McCarthy like in a lineman.  Quarterback Aaron Rodgers has been sacked more times than any other quarterback since 2008.  Shoring up the offensive front was clearly a priority for Thompson.

28th, 125th overall (from Broncos) – Johnathan Franklin, RB, UCLA

Here is another player who was rumored to be on Green Bay’s radar early in this year’s draft.  When the Packers took Lacy with their first pick in round two, it seemed that they had found the back of their choice and many were expecting more defense from Ted in round five.  But as he often does, Thompson surprised us and traded back into the fourth so he could take Franklin.  It’s clear that the Packers want to run the ball more and take some of the pressure off of Rodgers.  In Franklin, they have a quick and shifty back with deceptive power.  Pairing him up with Lacy and DuJuan Harris helps Green Bay’s running game become more relevant.

Round 5

26th, 159th overall – Micah Hyde, CB, Iowa

With a big need at safety, many though Thompson would take a defensive back early in the draft.  J.J. Wilcox was a prospect that many had their eye on for the Packers, but he was snagged by Dallas in round three.  Round four came and went and still no safety.  Finally, the Packers took Hyde with the first of two fifth-round selections.  Hyde has played some safety at the college level.  He has good speed and decent size coming in.  He likely gets a look at safety when the Packers open their mini camp.

34th, 167th overall (compensatory)- Josh Boyd, DE, Mississippi State

Boyd comes to Green Bay courtesy of the compensation pick that the Packers received for free agents lost last year.  Boyd is a feisty yet more athletic 6’3″, 310 lbs.  Boyd actually dropped into coverage at times in college.  I’m not advocating that at the NFL level, but it’s an illustration of how well he can move around at his size.  With uncertainty surrounding Jerel Worthy’s recovery from ACL surgery and with the team not knowing if Johnny Jolly can stick with the team this season, Boyd will get a chance to become part of the defensive front rotation.

Round 6

25th, 193rd overall – Nate Palmer, LB, Illinois State

The Packers had Palmer in for a pre-draft workout.  He played defensive end in college but translates as an outside LB at the pro level.  Palmer is athletic and is likely to be a contributor on special teams, if he ends up on the final 53-man roster.

Round 7

10th, 216th overall (from Titans through 49ers)- Charles Johnson, WR, Grand Valley State

Johnson could prove to be a great value if he sticks on this year’s team.  He had some issues in college and was suspended at Eastern Kentucky but managed to work his way back and onto NFL teams’ radars.  He has a frame closer to Jordy Nelson and can use his size to his advantage.  Johnson is fast.  He ran a sub 4.4 40-yard dash.  With one or two receiver spots up for grabs, Johnson can edge his way in if he is during training camp what the Packers hope he can be.

18th, 224th overall (from Cowboys through Dolphins) - Kevin Dorsey, WR, Maryland

Another “bigger” wide receiver, Dorsey was able to succeed at Maryland despite the team’s hideous uniforms.  But seriously, this pick was Thompson wanting to get bigger and more physical in 2013.  A quick glance at Dorsey suggests that he is not the most physical receiver and has quite a few areas to work on.  He is smart, however, and there is a chance that he becomes a hidden gem in this year’s seventh round.

26th, 232nd overall – Sam Barrington, LB, South Florida

Barrington was  your typical last pick of the draft.  Probably not a guy that the Packers were high on or maybe even knew much about but he was tops on their board at that spot and so they took him.  Barrington is a play maker and had several big ones during his time at South Florida.  But he also exercised bad judgment at times and battled inconsistency on the field.  He is a long shot to remain in the mix at linebacker and his best chance to stick with this year’s Packers team is on special teams.

 

 

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88 Responses to “Green Bay Packers Final 2013 Draft Board”

  1. Savage57 says:

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    • cow42 says:

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      • Chad Toporski Chad Toporski says:

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        • Savage57 says:

          Chad, not doomed, just marching in place while others move forward. Not, in my opinion, the way you IMPROVE.

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        • cow42 says:

          and while you make jokes… Rodgers’ best seasons are fluttering away.

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          • Chad Toporski Chad Toporski says:

            There are worse things in life.

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              • Jason Perone Jason Perone says:

                I’ll say this. .none of these comments are unwarranted. It could very well be that Ted had a not-so-great draft, but we can’t judge that now. Same thing with the 9ers. Yes, they perceivably did some good maneuvering but as many say, you can’t grade a draft until a few years later. Let’s see how this plays out. Also remember that when you’re picking late in rounds, you can’t always trade up for what you want. This draft didn’t hold what a lot deemed to be top-flight talent to begin with. I will tell you this. . minus maybe 1 of these guys, they are all smart players and won’t have any character issues. How would you like to be the Arizona Cardinals and waste ANY pick on the honey badger?

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              • Chad Toporski Chad Toporski says:

                The way some of you comment, you’d think the Packers were the only thing that mattered in this world, and that everything will soon come crashing down into a fiery apocalypse.

                Calm down. It’s the day after the draft, and we have no clue what’s going to happen in a few months. So stop acting like you have some sort of god-given clairvoyance.

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          • Dobber says:

            Actually, Matt Groening was making the jokes. Chad was just using them for effect.

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      • Lucas says:

        Michael Floyd, Jamell Fleming, Bobby Massie, Senio Kelemete, Justin Bethel, Ryan Lindley, Nate Potter. Yeah, they killed it. Look at all the all-pros in that draft. Maybe look at the 2011 draft. Smith and Kaepernick…that’s it from the draft before that. This year’s draft hasn’t done anything on the field yet. Neither did SF’s draft from last year.

        Truth is, nobody can tell what this years draft will do on the field yet.
        I’m sure many guys ripped on GB for drafting Driver, Tauscher, Flynn, etc.

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        • Stroh says:

          Michael Floyd, Jamell Fleming, Bobby Massie, Senio Kelemete, Justin Bethel, Ryan Lindley, Nate Potter

          Whats the Cards draft got to do w/ SF?

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          • Lucas says:

            LOL…yep…
            A.J. Jenkins, LaMichael James, Joe Looney, Darius Fleming, Trenton Robinson, Jason Slowey, Cam Johnson

            Same point.

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            • cow42 says:

              how about we talk about THIS YEAR’S draft?

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              • jay says:

                Lots of questions for the 49ers’ draft, particularly whether Tank and Lattimore can return to form. That’s hardly a given.

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              • Lucas says:

                I did. They have done just as much on the field as last year’s draft for SF.

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      • PatMc says:

        First let’s remember that SF started with 14 picks vs 8 for GB. That was the cards dealt to TT.

        Easy for you to discount two premium RB’s which will make the OL look much better. They will also give Rodgers more time in passing. GB will convert many more 3rd & 1′s and control the clock. A thing they sucked at last yr.

        Compared to Lattimore who will not play 1 down this year (if ever). Five new starters on D will not be good for SF being on the same page.

        TT felt he had better WR’s than Patton because he passed on him a few times.

        Dial is another clone of our stuff the run guys with no movement. We didn’t need another of that type. We need Datone Jones & Boyd. Both are better than Dial. Holly is easily better than Dial and I predict Neal will show up and demolish LT this year.

        When we play SF the first game this year McMillian, Perry will be much better at containing the run. Jones will contain the running QB and stuff him.

        Lacy and Franklin will show their running and blocking ability. Something lacking in GB for past 5 years. Expect one of them to get 100 yards rushing to begin the season.

        Johnson (if he makes the team) will show his speed and drive one CB and Safety deep every time he takes the field.

        Prediction:

        GB: 44 SF 13

        If hyde makes the 53, expect him to be picking the ball – maybe a pick 6.

        Oh the whole D that was drafted last year will be coming into their 2nd year, fresh off of OTA’s and off season prep. You will see improved all around.

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        • Steve Cheez says:

          Ya gotta love anybody predicting a score in April!

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          • PatMc says:

            Same as trying to grade the draft.

            GB, Det, Vikings all had very good drafts. Equal for what they needed to do. B for each. Good teams that improved for the next season.

            Chicago sucked as usual. They must have hired millen as a scout.

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        • cow42 says:

          you got the score right.
          just mixed up the teams.

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      • PackersRS says:

        Am I the only one that thought Reed to be the next Taylor Mays? (who also went to the 9ers, before being traded to the Bengals for a 7th rounder)

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      • TOM V says:

        Agree, the draft was end loaded due to trading back. Hopefully Ted’s pick will pan out. I would have preferred that Ted traded up or took best value on the latter rounds. One area that was ignored was QB, we have no backups and there was great value out there that we passed on. I also liked Jesse Williams and Patton that we passed on. Williams was a dominant football player who did not miss much time.

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    • toolkien says:

      Nothing more needs to be said than it takes two years minimum to have any idea how this draft was. And that goes both ways – those who want to get their shots in at the guy that slayed their demi-god hero, or those who need to pump sunshine in March and April to make themselves feel better about January and February.

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      • PackersRS says:

        You won the internet with “pump sunshine”

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      • Mojo says:

        Toolkein is right. But I would go further. It really takes around 5 years to know if a player is a bust. Consider Rodgers. If you were to judge him after his first three years, you might wonder if he was good enough to play in this league. And that’s not just because he rarely played. When he did play (mostly preseason) he often looked looked bad. I bet a lot of Packer fans thought he was a bust. And now look …

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  2. Alex Parkhurst says:

    Any grade give to a draft is not useful at this moment. Always check back in a year or two.

    If Jones, Lacy, Franklin and Bakhtiari are starters and let’s say four other draftees make the team and contribute, I think the draft would be considered a good one.

    I still worry about conditioning and injuries. There is not much point in having a draft like last year when so many top people get serious injuries.

    Here’s hoping that all the guys who the team stay healthy.

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    • Savage57 says:

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      • Lucas says:

        An instructor grading a test is analogous to a day after grading of the draft? Wow! The true assessment of the team, the real “test”, comes on the field, which hasn’t happened yet.
        Seeing “how things worked out” is actually what good educators and coaches do. Despite the “grades” on paper, judge the players by what they consistently prove, not by what they showed with one snap-shot of the past.
        And seriously, bully tactics to make a point?

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        • Savage57 says:

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          • Thomas Hobbes Thomas Hobbes says:

            I’d say that’s more an indictment of the media’s love of instant analysis and judgement and the fan’s desire for instant coverage than any rationale assessment of either the team or the draft. Grading the 2011 draft is probably the smarter move but no fan wants to wait 3 years (where they’ve probably forgotten who was drafted anyways), plus fans want to hype their current draft, especially if their team was terrible last year (hence the boundless optimism we see during the draft, where every player drafted is the next Tom Brady) Luca’s point is that grading now and performance later aren’t normally correlated, if that’s important to you then grading now doesn’t make sense.

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            • Savage57 says:

              No doubt, but the reality is we live in a 10 second sound byte world where we judge and analyze everything with ever-increasing immediacy and shallowness.

              I do struggle with the wholesale “step up to the cooler and getya some ‘really-good-draft’ Kool-Aid that everyone seems to be pushing. I think that this draft, like most of TT’s will be good but not great, and by extension so will the team within that time frame of reference.

              I just wish we’d stop canonizing this guy for doing his job.

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            • Dobber says:

              If praising someone “for doing his job” (and remember how thin the talent on this team was when Mike Sherman–who had devalued the draft–left town) is off-limits, then scorching him should be, as well. This isn’t politics, after all.

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              • Savage57 says:

                Could not agree with you more, but the idea gets lost in translation.

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          • Stroh says:

            Ron Wolf always said you can’t grade a draft until 3 years. But I’m sure you know a lot more football than one of the greatest GM’s ever!

            Go ahead and put your F on the draft it won’t be known to be good or bad until future performance is taken into account. That’s what the draft is about… Its Not about today before any of them have even stepped on an NFL field!

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            • Dobber says:

              Of course the draft is an F right now…none of these 9 guys have contributed anything toward winning a championship. ;)

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      • Pete Kliman says:

        Are you for real with this comment.The majority of players are developed.

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      • Jason Perone Jason Perone says:

        Sav…immediately grading a drafted NFL player isn’t the same as assessing someone’s ability to comprehend something they have been reviewing for the past month, aka, taking a test in school.

        I know you get this and I agree that you can grade the draft now, but it’s the same thing as saying “X team is going to win a Super Bowl based on their offseason moves”. There’s no way to know until the pads come on. It takes 2-3 seasons to really know how some of these guys will pan out.

        Right now begins the “lessons” aka learning the play book, practice, mini camps. The “test” are the games over the next few seasons. The “grades” then come 2-3 years later unless it’s just glaringly obvious this season that a guy is no good or gets cut. C’mon, we haven’t even seen these guys in uniform yet.

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    • Nick Perry says:

      BINGO! While I don’t completely disagree with cow42 or savage57, I do believe the Packers hit home runs with Jones, Lacy, Balkatieri, and Franklin. I think that Jones, Lacy, and Franklin will all make a difference on this team this year. I think Balkatieri needs a year to add some bulk and who knows, may step in right away. If the Packers get production from 3 or 4 picks this year that’s a huge improvement over the last two Thompson drafts. The sleeper just may be Johnson. Big and fast, hey with a little guidance from Jones, Cobb, and Nelson he may just surprise us. We may have a faster version of Colston!

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    • Dobber says:

      “Any grade give to a draft is not useful at this moment. Always check back in a year or two.”

      I would argue that any grade you give to a draft is ONLY useful at this moment.

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  3. Sanguine camper says:

    I thought that the Packers wanted to get bigger and more physical? With the exception of Datone Jones and Lacy, the rest of the draft appears to be made out of the same finesse mold that has dropped the Packers way behind the Niners.

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    • Lucas says:

      So in order to beat SF we have to play the game their way? That’s the same as saying a shooting guard could never beat a center, or a team of guards could never beat a team of centers. There’s more than one way to win games.
      We lost that game. Get over it. Let it go. SF hasn’t won a game yet in 2013. Why are we chasing a team that’s 0-0? Paper! Things on paper are frightening us? NO!

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      • Dobber says:

        Reminds me of a post-game call-in show after a Wisconsin-Illini hoops game when I was a post-doc at U of Illinois in 1998. Playing Dick Bennett’s style, UW had just lost a 4-point game to a very talented Illini team.

        A caller was complaining that if Wisconsin would just play an up-tempo style like most modern teams, U of I would have pounded them. I can’t find a better reason to not play someone else’s style.

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    • Dobber says:

      SIZE does not equal PHYSICALITY or TOUGHNESS.

      We’ve seemed to equate all of those. Size without motor doesn’t do much. Motor can accomplish a lot in the absence of bulk.

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  4. Sanguine camper says:

    The Packers got the snot knocked out of them twice last year by the Niners and by the Giants the year before that. I think the finesse game can get the Packers to the playoffs but when they run into a good physical team, the finesse teams often take a beating.

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    • Pete Kliman says:

      That’s why Lacy will pound. I was worried about him in the first round because he might be a product of a great line , but at 61 he’s a steal. 6.5 avg in college,I’ll take 4.5 next year.

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      • Steve Cheez says:

        Heck,Pete, I’d take 3.5

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      • Scott1956 says:

        With the same offensive line? It doesn’t make much difference who the RB is, if the line can’t block. I never hear anybody on hear talk about Lacy and his turf toe that was so bad that he got his toe fused! Which is why Pittsburg passed on him.

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  5. Matt says:

    @Savage57

    No, but my instructor waited until I actually took the test before grading me on it. Nobody knows how an NFL player is gonna pan out until they’ve played at least a season or two. Think about it, would you have predicted Clay Matthews would become one of the best OLBs in the league after he was drafted?

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    • Savage57 says:

      I get the wait n see thing, but for the love of Pete I was talking about the paper grades everyone in the world is going to be talking about for the next three days.

      And I’m talking about the GM that picked ‘em this weekend, not the players themselves. It’s a relative as opposed to an absolute thing.

      PS – Click on the word “Reply” in green and underlined when you want to respond directly to someone’s post.

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      • Stroh says:

        Apparently you care too much about what others think of you. Otherwise you wouldn’t be too interested in what a bunch of journalists think of the Packers draft.

        Seems your whole life revolves around how pitiful you seem to think the Packers are.

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    • Dobber says:

      You can only grade something when…
      1. you know what the answer IS or,
      2. you know what you wanted the kid to say.

      Which of these is appropriate, here?

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  6. Matt says:

    I’m gonna go out and say I’m not worried about San Francisco. They made a mistake in trading away Alex Smith and now have zero depth at QB with a starter who plays in a way that comes with high injury risk.

    Also, criticize Thompson all you want, but realize that you could have substantially worse. Just ask the Jets or the Bills.

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    • Thomas Hobbes Thomas Hobbes says:

      I’m a little confused as to why everyone is afraid of SF. One game does not make a season and one team is never the only team to beat. The Packers could have the snot kicked out of them by SF and still win the Super Bowl. Maybe SF slides out of the playoffs, maybe the Packers slide out of the playoffs. I don’t know how people are predicting that the Packers will see the niners past week 1

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      • Scott1956 says:

        Really? You don’t know why? Because they are very young, and seem to be getting better. And it appears the Packers are good, but just treading water. This team is soft. And it did nothing to get bigger and stronger. Faster? Maybe. But this team got pushed around by physical teams. And the 49ers are much more physical.

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        • Dobber says:

          When you’re winning double-digit games over the last several seasons (including 15 year before last) and a SuperBowl over that span, it’s hard to do much more than tread water.

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  7. Pigskin Paul says:

    I like the work WHITEY did in this Draft. The RB corps just got totally revammped, which is good. BIG DEAL IS THAT BOTH THESE RB CAN/WILL PASS PRO FOR A-RODGE. DATONE is a second attempt @ what they wanted out of NEAL. The 2 OL fit what they look for in the trenches. THey will also sign another 5-6 URFA who will compete for jobs in Training Camp.

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    • Dobber says:

      Mike Neal isn’t a bad football player, he’s just not a three-down, 3-4 end. What the Packers did get out of this draft is two immediate starters (Jones and (probably) Lacy), and provided competition to force out players at positions that haven’t been doing what they need (DL, OL).

      We can talk all about needing to get bigger and tougher in the trenches, but there are growing pains with that. I would all but guarantee that if the Packers drafted 2 OL with the intent to drop in the lineup on day 1, ARod would be running for his life even more than before…”here MM, here’s your franchise QB’s knee, or another concussion.”

      As for the DL, it’s a safe bet that both Boyd and Jones are on the week 1 roster, and maybe even Pena and Jolly (who I’m pretty sure doesn’t have a chance now). That means that up to 4 guys who played significant snaps in 2012 (Wilson, Daniels, Neal, Worthy (who I think will be PUP and then IR)?) are going to be gone. That’s a massive overhaul.

      You’re getting the change you’re asking for. Let these guys play and see where we end up.

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      • Stroh says:

        The reason Neal isn’t a 3 dwon DE is entirely due to injury. Otherwise if you call Jones a 3 down DE, you have to say that Neal is too. Size they are very close. Jones about an inch taller, but 10 lbs lighter and his arms are about and inch shorter. So really Neal is both bigger and longer. Not to mention they test very similar for the important elements related to DE.

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        • Dobber says:

          Never called Jones a 3-down DE…I think he’s at least a little mis-cast in the 3-4 as an end unless he gets up to 300 lbs.

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      • jay says:

        DL most likely: Raji, Pickett, Neal, Jones, Wilson, Daniels, Jolly/Boyd/Pena (pick 2) Worthy probably starts on PUP.

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        • PatMc says:

          Pena needs to develop lower body muscle. He is a “soft” 330 lbs. He will probably be on Practice squad, but then again he might make it to 53 if Jolly doesn’t make it (or another injury occurs).

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  8. Nopainnogain says:

    I don’t really think SF ‘out-physicalled’ us in the playoffs. Our contain (walden) just got outran by Kaepernick. Perry should help with that this year. CK also made some spectacular throws in that game. If worthy and jones can penetrate as anticipated, that can blow up the read option.

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    • Scott1956 says:

      They rushed for over 300 yards. They punched the Packers in the face. They ran over the Packers. Their QB ran for what, 176? And we didn’t get a hand on him for the first 173 yards! The 49ers are MUCH more physical.

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      • Dobber says:

        That game was a train-wreck on so many levels…physicality was only a portion of it.

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  9. Batavia Greg says:

    There is one thing about this year’s draft that is certain. The “Homers” will praise TT and the “woulda-coulda” super-critics will damn him for blowing it.

    As for myself, I’ll take the middle way. Praise for picking Jones, Bakhtiari and Franklin; damnation for picking Hyde (especially since Tavarres King, Corey Fuller, Ryan Swope and Bacarri Rambo were still available). I went to Iowa. I’v seen Hyde get burned by fast receivers. He is simply too slow. Also, why take Tretter in the fourth when Quinton Patton was still available? We “coulda had” at least one polished receiver to go with one of the two projects selected in the 7th round.

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    • Dobber says:

      I was intrigued by Swope at that point. I look at Hyde and the first thing I thought was that this guy is going to be a safety if he makes it in the NFL. Special teams.

      There were other decent receivers to be had in Rd. 4 and beyond. Even if Patton turned the Packers off in some way, they didn’t bite on the others, either. Clearly, Stroh was right: the Packers didn’t see WR/TE as a need area for this draft.

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  10. Scott1956 says:

    You guys should put up the last 5 drafts and then we’ll grade them.

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    • Lucas says:

      SF draft stats since 2005: 67 picks, 16.4% 1st round, 7.5% 2nd, 13.4 3rd, 10.4 4th, 11.9 5th, 20.9 6th, 19.4 7th
      2012
      A.J. Jenkins
      LaMichael James
      Joe Looney
      Darius Fleming
      Trenton Robinson
      Jason Slowey
      Cam Johnson

      2011
      Aldon Smith
      Colin Kaepernick
      Chris Culliver
      Kendall Hunter
      Daniel Kilgore
      Ronald Johnson
      Colin Jones
      Bruce Miller
      Mike Person
      Curtis Holcomb

      2010
      Anthony Davis
      Mike Iupati
      Taylor Mays
      NaVorro Bowman
      Anthony Dixon
      Nate Byham
      Kyle Williams
      Phillip Adams

      2009
      Michael Crabtree
      Glen Coffee
      Scott McKillop
      Nate Davis
      Bear Pascoe
      Curtis Taylor
      Ricky Jean-Francois

      2008
      Kentwan Balmer
      Chilo Rachal
      Reggie Smith
      Cody Wallace
      Josh Morgan
      Larry Grant

      2007
      Patrick Willis
      Joe Staley
      Jason Hill
      Ray McDonald
      Jay Moore
      Dashon Goldson
      Joe Cohen
      Tarell Brown
      Thomas Clayton

      2006
      Vernon Davis
      Manny Lawson
      Brandon Williams
      Michael Robinson
      Parys Haralson
      Delanie Walker
      Marcus Hudson
      Melvin Oliver
      Vickiel Vaughn

      2005
      Alex Smith
      David Baas
      Frank Gore
      Adam Snyder
      Ronald Fields
      Rasheed Marshall
      Derrick Johnson
      Daven Holly
      Marcus Maxwell
      Patrick Estes
      Billy Bajema

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    • Lucas says:

      GB draft stats since 2005: 76 total picks, 10.5% 1st round, 15.8% 2nd, 9.2% 3rd, 14.5% 4th, 15.8% 5th, 17.1% 6th, 17.1% 7th
      2012
      Nick Perry
      Jerel Worthy
      Casey Hayward
      Mike Daniels
      Jerron McMillian
      Terrell Manning
      Andrew Datko
      B.J. Coleman

      2011
      Derek Sherrod
      Randall Cobb
      Alex Green
      Davon House
      D.J. Williams
      Caleb Schlauderaff
      D.J. Smith
      Ricky Elmore
      Ryan Taylor
      Lawrence Guy

      2010
      Bryan Bulaga
      Mike Neal
      Morgan Burnett
      Andrew Quarless
      Marshall Newhouse
      James Starks
      C.J. Wilson

      2009
      B.J. Raji
      Clay Matthews
      T.J. Lang
      Quinn Johnson
      Jamon Meredith
      Jarius Wynn
      Brandon Underwood
      Brad Jones

      2008
      Jordy Nelson
      Brian Brohm
      Pat Lee
      Jermichael Finley
      Jeremy Thompson
      Josh Sitton
      Breno Giacomini
      Matt Flynn
      Brett Swain

      2007
      Justin Harrell
      Brandon Jackson
      James Jones
      Aaron Rouse
      Allen Barbre
      David Clowney
      Korey Hall
      Desmond Bishop
      Mason Crosby
      DeShawn Wynn
      Clark Harris

      2006
      A.J. Hawk
      Daryn Colledge
      Greg Jennings
      Abdul Hodge
      Jason Spitz
      Cory Rodgers
      Will Blackmon
      Ingle Martin
      Tony Moll
      Johnny Jolly
      Tyrone Culver
      Dave Tollefson

      2005
      Aaron Rodgers
      Nick Collins
      Terrence Murphy
      Marviel Underwood
      Brady Poppinga
      Junius Coston
      Mike Hawkins
      Mike Montgomery
      Craig Bragg
      Kurt Campbell
      Will Whitticker

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  11. Scott1956 says:

    2005, The Packers got Rodgers and Collins who both were great picks. The rest, not so much. Outside of Poppinga, who was average, not much. But with Rodgers, that makes this draft a success. A
    2006, Hawk is average at best. And is horrible for a 5th overall pick. College was a starter for a couple of years, but got pushed around a lot! Finally let go. Jennings, a great player. Spitz started a little, but just another guy. Blackmon was a pretty good returner, but was always getting hurt. C+
    2007, James Jones, Bishop and Crosby are above average. Frist round, Harrell, BUST! 2nd round Jackson, BUST! The problem with these drafts is TT almost always keeps all of them for at least 1-2 years.
    2008, Nelson, Very good WR. Sitton, a great Guard. Finley, inconsistent at best. Flynn? Who knows. Was a good backup. When you have 3 2nd round choices and 2 were complete busts, well not that good of a draft. C
    2009, Raji, good player at times. Not a NT. Gets pushed out of the middle way too much. CMIII, Great player. Injury prone. Misses some games every year. Lang, starting LG. Too much like College. NOT strong. Brad Jones, career backup until 2012. Started because of injury. Played OK. Got starter money. Grade B
    2010, Bulaga, average RT. Neal, first 2 years, nothing. Then played OK the last part of this year. Burnett is a pretty good Saftey. Newhouse is awful. 22 1/2 sacks in 2 years. For any Tackle that’s really bad, for a LT that can be a QB ender! Starks has had 4 good games his rookie year. Nothing since. D+
    2011, Cobb, turning into a real weapon. Sherrod, nothing during first year, then had a terrible injury. 2nd year, DNP. Green, Just a guy so far after ACL. House has potential. C
    2012, Perry and Worthy, both IR. Hayward had a great rookie year. The rest like Daniels, are just guys. INC. Until we know if Perry is the answer at OLB!

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    • Dobber says:

      I don’t understand how the Packers are consistently winning double-digit games year-in and year-out if they’re drafting this badly and suffering as many injuries as they do, to boot.

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    • Jersey Al Jersey Al says:

      It seems like you think other teams are so much better at drafting. From 2009 – 2012, the Packers have an 81.8% retention rate of draft picks, fifth best in the league. And that doesn’t include the undrafted players Thompson has found that have made the roster…

      take a look:

      http://www.drafttek.com/ConsolidatedNFLDraft2012-SWT.ASP#.UX3hQ7VzF8E

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    • G says:

      Nelson, Sitton, Finley = C? lol…

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      • Dobber says:

        And think what you want about 2010′s draft, but every one of those guys with the exception of an injured Andrew Quarless started regularly or in injury relief at some point in 2012.

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      • Scott1956 says:

        The Packers missed badly on 2 second round picks. Finley can’t catch a cold.
        Sitton and Nelson are the only good players. Brohm didn’t even make it to the end of training camp! Pat Lee? Another not even average player. Kept 2 years too long. And the rest of who cares? Flynn? He got to play in 2 games, and played very well. But if he was that good, he wouldn’t of gotten beat out in Seattle! So yeah a “C”!

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    • Jersey Al Jersey Al says:

      And if you’re going to compare the 49ers to the Packers, let’s remember the 49ers did not have a winning record in any year from 2006 – 2010. The packers had a winningb recors every one of those years except one. So of course, they 49ers had opportunities to grab better players

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      • PatMc says:

        But SF won a SB in those years….oooops I guess that was GB.

        A free agent signing for best QB and best D player occurred on Friday. Rodgers and CMIII. GB is set to run. Justine Smith is on last legs and CK will be in second year as player. Let’s see how he does and then compare.

        Scott gives a “B” for 2009.

        Scott clearly underestimates the players in that draft. CMIII alone makes it an “A”. Raji had ankle issues last year but still is one of the top NT. Jones took over in the middle and can play all 4 LB spots. Lang is way better than colledge.
        Starks had 4 good games (all playoff games) including a winning SB.

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        • Scott1956 says:

          Really? CMIII is great, but he HAS to start playing 16 games. Raji? Overrated! He’s not a NT. He gets pushed around a lot at NT. That’s why they had to put Pickett back at NT. Jones IS a career backup, who played well for 9 games last year. And Lang is College all over. Gets pushed back into the backfield a lot. And yes, Starks IS a joke. If you don’t know the playbook after 3 years, you are a joke!
          In case reading is hard for you guys, the only thing I said was put up the last 5 years and we would grade them. Nowhere in that did I mention the 49ers! I never said to compare the two.

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    • Dan "FireMMNow" Blakley FireMMNow says:

      raji, cm3, lang and jones is a B draft?

      wow. Cm3 may be the best defensive player in football. raji and land are solid starters. jones will most likely start games this season, at a minimum he will be the 3rd down backer. you are a tough grader. i would say that drafting a player who is on track to be a HOF player at the end of the first round should make a draft an A.

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      • Dobber says:

        Trading up to get that guy, no less.

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      • Scott1956 says:

        Players that can’t play a whole season, don’t get into the hall of fame. Is CMII great yes, I’ve said this how many times? You guys hear just what you want to hear. Raji and Lang? Raji and Lang are overrated. Raji was drafted to be the NT that won’t be moved. Now why did the Packers move Pickett back to NT and Raji to end? Because Raji gets pushed out of the middle to easily. Lang? He’s just College 2.0. Except he doesn’t talk. Remember earlier this offseason when McCarthy said the whole left side needed to get better. That includes Lang! One player doesn’t make any draft an “A”. Even I made an exception for the draft with Rodgers. But not for CMII, and a bunch of average.

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