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Packers vs. Bears – Game Day First Impressions, Unfiltered: CHI 27 GB 20

Aaron Rodgers injured on this play

Aaron Rodgers injured on this play

Green Bay Packers vs. Chicago Bears:  2013 Game 8

Unfiltered game day blog post of comments, observations and first impressions.

GAME NOTES:

Good news announced just before game time: James Jones is active and will play.

Packers staring outside linebackers tonight are Mike Neal and Andy Mulumba… dramatic pause…

The Packers have won six straight and eight of the last nine meetings against the Bears (including playoffs).

Packers CB Tramon Williams and Bears T Jordan Mills are cousins; both attended Louisiana Tech and Assumption High School in Napoleonville, La. …

 

Tonight’s captains for the Packers: - Jordy Nelson, Tramon Williams, Davon House 

 

Inactives for today:

 

Green Bay PackersGreen Bay Packers
10 WR Chris Harper
25 CB James Nixon
52 LB Clay Matthews
53 LB Nick Perry
88 TE Jermichael Finley
93 DE Josh Boyd
98 DE C.J. Wilson

96 Mike Neal will start at OLB in place of Perry; 55 Andy Mulumba will start at OLB in place of Matthews; 81 Andrew Quarless will start at TE in place of Finley.

 

Chicago Bears
6 QB Jay Cutler
19 WR Joe Anderson
55 LB Lance Briggs
78 T/G James Brown
79 T Jonathan Scott
94 DE Cornelius Washington
96 DT Zach Minter

59 Khaseem Greene will start at LB for Briggs; 12 Josh McCown will start at QB for Cutler.

Mike McCarthy Pregame Show on 620 WTMJ:

Mon nightexcitement:  It’s a great atmosphere – Lambeau  under the lights, especially a Monday night

Playing a night game: It’s a long day. got up early, had a team meeting. All our guys are here and ready to go.

Jones: James Jones will play – he wants to go and he;s ready – we’ll see how he feels.  Same for Brad Jones.

Jarett Boykin: He’s a hard worker – does everything right – tough kid making the most of his opportunity.

Good health of two lines: (knocks on wood).

Kick returns: Will start with Micah Hyde, would definitely like to get Johnathan Franklin another opportunity.

Different Bears: with Trestman: Definitely. They’re dynamic schematically on offense.

Josh McCown: He played really well last week. He’s had a long time to get ready for this game. He has experience. This is a very productive offense.

Turnovers: Definitely a dangerous defense. They do an excellent job of ball extraction. The weather comes into play as well. Have to protect the football.

Wind: Always factors into field position. We have a pregame report we’ll look at and then examine thingsagain right before kickoff

Hester: Always a big factor – you have to know where he is every single week. That hasn’t changed in my time here. His ability to read, stretch and cut up the field is unique.

 

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Packers vs. Bears – First Impressions – First Half:

Bears win the toss and defer.

Josh Sitton with the nice cut block on a Lacy  toss for a 10 yard gain.  Pulling is not his forte…

Ruh-roh, Rodgers wincing after a sack. Later jogs to the locker room – probably for a quick X-ray. Looks like his non-throwing shoulder. Paging Seneca Wallace…

Nothing like having make-up speed, right Sam Shields? beaten by Brandon Marshall but recovers to break up a potential TD pass.

Have no idea how McCown shook off Mike Neal to get that pass off to Brandon Marshall. TD Bears.

Bears defense: What the hell is that thing wearing #27?

Tillman close to stripping the ball from Lacy…

Not impressed with Seneca Wallace’s throwing motion/mechanics so far…

Bears defense: What the hell was that thing wearing #44 that just blew by us?

Banjo with the “deliverance” of the big hit on Devin Hester.

Think the #Packers “D” is feeling the need to win this game?

Score at end of 1st quarter:   GB 10 CHI 7

Pretty impressed Wallace was able to get away from immediate pressure from both edges.

Baktiari getting beat regularly by Julius Peppers…

So Matt Flynn was cut by the Raiders and Bills, yet #Packers fans are still in love with him? Twitter ablaze with calls for Flynn. Seriously folks, enough of the Matt Flynn romanticism…

Aaron Rodgers will not return. They’re saying shoulder or collarbone – nothing official yet.

Packer just gave  Scott Tolzein a big raise to keep him on the Practice Squad. Cleveland wanted to sign him.

McCarthy chooses not to challenge an out-of-bounds call on a pass to Quarless. Everyone who saw the replay thought it was a good catch. Little to lose by challenging yhere. Don’t understand why he passed.

Perhaps the Packers might want to keep a closer eye on Brandon Marshall? Just a thought…

Still trying to figure out the recurring theme of the Packers letting one receiver have career days against them…

 

Score at end of 1st half:  CHI 17 GB 10

 

Packers vs. Bears – First Impressions – Second Half:

Packers defense with a big three and out on the Bears’ first possession of the second half. Now can the offense do something?

Well, a 56 yard run by Eddie Lacy sure helps… Then Lacy scores from the 1 yd line.

Quarless with the key block (with a little hold) on the Lacy run…

ONSIDES KICK!!!  MM always has something special for the Bears…

TJ Lang out for the game with a concussion. Barclay moves to his spot and  Marshall Newhouse takes over at right tackle.

Third and goal, Wallaces misses Quarless. Either that was a bad throw or he was going back shoulder and Quarless wasn’t on board…

Packers defense playing well overall, but not enough pressure on McCown. Letting him get too comfortable back there.

Mike Neal with good pressure all night – still has lot to learn technique-wise. Look out next year.

Bears get the ball in Packers territory, Packers up by three. Big series for D here.

Bears Offensive line holding like crazy. no whistles. Refs letting them play. Hold by Long lets McCown complete a big third down pass.

With receivers like Marshall and Jeffry, you don’t have to be that accurate a thrower as a QB.

Score at end of 3rd quarter:   CHI 24 GB 20

Tramon Williams – when you get two hands on the ball, can you please catch it? No interceptions in his last 21 games… smh

Bears rotating to single safety, yet not one shot down the sideline. No confidence in Wallace… Have to at least try it…

4th and inches on their own 33 – Trestman goes for it and Forte muscles through for a first down.

Packers defense tiring badly- tackling going south and they’re getting pushed around now.

I so miss Lovie Smith.

Trestman was a great hire by the Bears.

Call me crazy, but the #Packers hanging in this long without Aaron Rodgers means I can’t get overly upset by this.

With no offense, the #Packers D has been on the field all day. Are we surprised they’re dead tired?

Final Score:  CHI 27 GB 20

 

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68 Responses to “Packers vs. Bears – Game Day First Impressions, Unfiltered: CHI 27 GB 20”

  1. Chad Lundberg says:

    Every team faces injuries, but damn, at least three key players were out tonight (Rodgers, Matthews, Perry).

    The one good thing about tonight is that we learned just how much of a BOSS Eddie Lacy is!

    We may have lost, but the ONLY thing that matters right now is if Rodgers can come back soon!!!

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    • Two Bears, One Cup says:

      You can add Cobb and Finley to that list. They would have been good short options for Wallace’s limited arm.

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  2. Art says:

    No doubt AR was missed. The Packers running game kept them in the game. Matt Flynn, you’ve been available six hours and no call from the Packers? GB can’t play another game with a QB that can’t see over the O’lines heads. He should have been picked at least two more times. But the loss was not due to him, but to the secondary that could not make a tackle, a sack, a pick. They made McCown should look like a starting QB.

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    • Two Bears, One Cup says:

      I’d argue that the lack of pass rush is what made the secondary look bad. And I wasn’t impressed with the outside contain by the OLB.

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      • Chad Toporski Chad Toporski says:

        I do think a poor pass rush is being overlooked, though there is also a healthy dose of criticism due for the secondary.

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    • Nick Perry says:

      Defense can only handle so many 3 and outs. They were gassed by that last drive. We also saw Williams should be nothing more than a dime back. He played 15 yards off all night, dropped a INT that hit him in the hands. Hmmmm, remember the days these guys were called ball hawks? 3 INT’s through 3 games.

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    • Dobber says:

      Flynn couldn’t win a starting job over rookies in Seattle or Oakland, and couldn’t stick with Buffalo after they’d gone 3 deep on QBs. What does that say? No thanks.

      Besides, if MM could take a pop-gun arm guy with that description and coach him up to play like he did against the Pats and Lions, what can he do with Wallace?

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  3. Nick Perry says:

    As much as I love what Ted T has done for the Packers, I think it’s absolutely insane to go into a season with a QB that hadn’t played since 2011. IT LOOKED LIKE IT. I get we’ve been spoiled with the durability of Farve and Rodgers but Wallace is as pathetic as I’ve seen. I said they’d run for 200 yards and they did, or very close. May have hit 275 with Rodgers and won easily. Defense was gassed by end of day from all Wallaces 3 and outs. It’s been a awhile since the offense looked that bad throwing ball. Bills released Flynn, go sign him Ted.

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    • Chad Toporski Chad Toporski says:

      Fun Fact:

      The Bears lost to the Redskins in the game when Cutler injured his groin.

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      • Nick Perry says:

        Another fun fact, the Bears QB was 14-20 for 201 yards and 2 TD’s. Yes they lost the game, but not because of him. Wallace threw 5 yards behind on that 3rd down to Jordy. All I’m saying is if they counted on a QB who hasn’t played since 2011, (last night we CLEARLY saw the reason why) that’s a horrible plan. Stark’s and Lacy ran the ball for 190 yards, most against a 8 man front. If they had any kind of back up with a running game like that, they would have won.

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        • Nick Perry says:

          Not only that, Thompson has built a team to withstand injuries. Why bring in a back up that hadn’t played in 2 years at the last second before the regular season starts? It’s been said he had very little work even in practice. Last night you saw a team caught with their pants down, unprepared for a injury to Rodgers.

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        • Chad Toporski Chad Toporski says:

          Somehow, I don’t think the Packers planned on having to pick up two veteran QBs at the end of training camp, severely limiting their ability to learn and get comfortable in the offense.

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          • Nick Perry says:

            All I’m saying Chad is I think they could have done better than a guy that was a backup in 2011, out of the NFL in 2012, and not signed until after the preseason. Ted T has done a amazing job. With that said we’ve all talked on this website about a viable backup. I just feel they could have found someone better than a guy totally out of football last year.

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        • Dobber says:

          “All I’m saying is if they counted on a QB who hasn’t played since 2011, (last night we CLEARLY saw the reason why) that’s a horrible plan.”

          Nobody signs a backup QB with the idea of needing them. In today’s NFL, when you’ve got an elite QB starting, you don’t pay him AND a backup.

          Just saying…

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    • Archie says:

      Love? A defense with no pass rush not named CMIII and CBs that are smaller than Lilliputians?

      Offensive side of the ball is a different story. Major weakness of offense coming into season was no back-up QB. Now that bites us in the ass.

      After 9 years in the GM chair, I expect better.

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  4. Mojo says:

    If Rodgers has a broken collar-bone, the seasons over.

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    • Chad Lundberg says:

      No cast or sling on Rodgers. Let’s not be so quick to assume the worst.

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      • Dobber says:

        Bingo. THere are plenty of joints along the breastbone to sprain or strain, too, but the fact that his left arm was unsupported was a big deal.

        Concussion?

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    • marpag says:

      Unless it is unusually serious, a broken collarbone is not likely to be season-ending, even at this stage of the year.

      As I watched the play, my first, snap reaction was that he separated his shoulder, which can often happen when a player jams his arm into the ground at the elbow, popping the upper arm out of its socket. Separated shoulders vary in severity, with the mild separations amounting to little more than soreness, and the serious ones being quite a bit more troublesome. But a collarbone problem might be equally likely. Just have to wait and see.

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    • Outis says:

      AR rolled out to his right and Shea McClellin got around Don Barclay’s block and caught AR from behind. A clean play by McClellin but a poor block by Barclay.

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  6. Since '61 says:

    Don’t know how long Rodgers will be out? This is the one injury we can’t survive. The defense needed to step up and failed miserably, especially in the 4th quarter. I am a supporter of Hayward but he had a really bad game tonight. Missed tackles, beaten on pass plays, brutal. I know that we win with Rodgers but this defense still needs some work, especially on tackling and coverage. Let’s hope Rodgers is back for next week. MM press conference coming up. Thanks, Since ’61

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  7. Savage57 says:

    Quick observations:

    DB’s don’t have very good ball skills

    Bob McGinn at the Journal Sentinel is hiring security

    Tackling was weak

    Defense looked exhausted

    Hubris displayed tonight via the belief that you don’t need a good backup QB

    Lacy yardage lost in the sea of really poor play calls. Remember when the Packers used to be a good screen team?

    in short – Arrgghhh!

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    • Savage57 says:

      Addendum – Tramon Williams is done. Put a fork in him. Doesn’t make plays and when he’s in position to make them, he can’t catch the ball.

      21 games without a pick? And he’s the Packers #1 DB?

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    • marpag says:

      What do you mean about McGinn?

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  8. Germ Ike Al says:

    Lang injury hurt us almost as much as Rodgers

    Hayward is a interceptor, not a tackler

    If you told me Rodgers was gonna get knocked out of any game in the first 3 minutes i’d expect a loss, so not too disappointed. Have a soft schedule the next three weeks, hopefully can wim one or two of those without Rodgers but desperately need him back down the stretch.

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    • Dobber says:

      “Lang injury hurt us almost as much as Rodgers”

      Absolutely. Seneca Wallace will never be mistaken for ARod or Russell Wilson, but the line combo of Bakh-Sitton-EDS-Barclay-Newhouse really struggled in obvious passing situations. They opened some holes in the run game, but they did Wallace no favors.

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  9. Bearmeat Bearmeat says:

    If ARod is out for more than a couple weeks we are done. And whoever wins the NFCN will be about as legitimate of a division champ as the Dolphins were in 2008 when Brady was out.

    Whenever the Bears beat us, it’s in a flukey manner. Tonight was no different. Sucks.

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  10. GBPDAN says:

    TT has been messing around with the back up QB situation for a couple of years now and tonight it burnt the Pack and cost them a divisional win. I do not see us winning with Wallace. If the pack had McCown and the bears had Wallace, the pack wins big. Losing Lang hurt ,too. Newhouse was terrible. Hope Sherrard makes the 53 this year.

    Missing Mathews and Perry really hurt tonight. Not enough pressure. The fact that rodgers didn’t have a sling on when returning to the sidelines, and the way he was moving his arms when jogging to the locker room, makes me think its not a broken collar bone. Plus, that would have showed up on a xray in the locker room. Hopefully its not to bad. A MRI tomorrow will tell the story. Hopefully its something a pain killer shot will help him play next week.

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    • Sherrod can’t even practice if placed on IR. If GB activates Sherrod, it might mean 1.)GB thinks he can play this year and be better than Newhouseand/or Barclay; 2.) GB thinks Sherrod needs the rest of this season, the off-season, mini-camp and training camp to be ready for next year. I hope its #1 and that GB is right, but in my heart I think it’s a long shot. GB has another week to decide on Sherrod.

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  11. skyler says:

    WE WILL NOT WIN ANY GAMES WITH WALLACE. HE IS NOT ACCURATE PAST 10 YARDS. WE IS NOT MOBILE. WE WILL SEE 3 AND DONE. THE DEFENSE WILL BE GASSED. I A-ROD MISSES MORE THAN TWO WEEK, WE WILL NOT BE IN THE PLAYOFFS, PERIOD. TT GAMBLED AND LOST

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    • Outis says:

      Right now, I bet TT wishes that he hadn’t wasted his 3 7th round draft picks and used one of them to pick Miami of Ohio’s QB Zach Dysert, who has a strong and accurate arm. What a mistake it was to go into this season without a young, promising back-up QB, especially when you have an undrafted free agent at ROT protecting the franchise QB.

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      • Two Bears, One Cup says:

        At the time of the draft we had BJ Coleman. Last year he looked like he could maybe be a good QB in the future. If Thompson had known he had already peaked he probably would have drafted a QB. You’re expecting TT to know the future, but no GM has that power.

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  12. marpag says:

    Yes Wallace and the pass rush weren’t good, but that’s more understandable to me than the DBs shoddy performance. The bears had guys running free all night.

    And don’t look now but PHI’s offense exploded on Sunday. Might be trouble.

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  13. GBPDAN says:

    If Rodgers doesn’t play, there is no doubt in my mind that the Pack will lose to the Eagles. Thanks Ted for our awesome back up QB situation.

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    • Razer says:

      I don’t think so. This team is better than the Eagles and Seneca Wallace will be ready to manage the offense. You just have to run harder into a headwind – not give up

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  14. packett says:

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    • Nick Perry says:

      Defense can only handle so many 3 and outs. They were gassed by that last drive. We also saw Williams should be nothing more than a dime back. He played 15 yards off all night, dropped a INT that hit him in the hands. Hmmmm, remember the days these guys were called ball hawks? 3 INT’s through 3 games.

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      • JH9 says:

        Yes, the defense was gassed by the fourth quarter. However, the Bears still had 17 points at halftime. The Packers defense gave up all 27 points after AR went down.

        A championship caliber team has to have a championship caliber defense. To me, a championship caliber defense should have the ability to step up their play when needed and take control of the game.

        When AR went down, that is when we needed our defense to step up. They didn’t/couldn’t. Once again in a big game situation our defense failed us.

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        • Chad Toporski Chad Toporski says:

          “The Packers defense gave up all 27 points after AR went down.”

          Umm… that’s not a very insightful statements. The Bears never possessed the ball before Rodgers went down.

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          • JH9 says:

            The point I’m making is that the defense knew full well that when AR went down, for us to win the game they had to step up their play. They didn’t or couldn’t. Either way they were a big disappointment.

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      • marpag says:

        No, the defense should be able to handle 3 and outs all night long… assuming that they can force 3 and outs from the Bears in response.

        Obviously, they couldn’t.

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  15. Sanguinius says:

    Our future fortunes all depend on Rodgers’ health.

    IF he is out for let’s say just the two games I think we still have a chance to be in the mix for the playoffs (maybe as a wildcard).

    Any longer than that and the Packers are probably done for the season. Running game is decent and the defense is not bad (they were tired last night as the offense couldn’t produce longer time consuming drives) but the whole offense is built around Rodgers.

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  16. Razer says:

    This is not a TT, MM or DC problem. You lose all these quality players and you become average fairly fast. McCowan had good protection and their OLine did their job. An average QB was able to do his job because our pass rushers are standing on the sideline. Our offense can only run because our QB, best player and only guy to take snaps for the last five years is on the sideline.

    Until we get some of these guys back, we are like everybody else who are relying on bench players. At this point, the defense will have to get healthy and carry the team. Matthews with a cast is better than Neal, Mulumba, Palmer and the rest of our linebacker corps tied together.

    Stay the course and keep the faith. Philly will feel the pain.

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  17. James David says:

    Wallace is either not ready to play, or was a mistake. I have felt that Williams was done some time ago and I would go with Shields and House at outside CB. With a now solid run game the QB

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  18. Archie says:

    Well, the hubris that TT/MM have created a plug ‘n play system that does not depend on who is on the field, including the greatest QB on the planet, was shattered last night. Yes Virginia, there is a Santa Claus and his name is Aaron Rodgers. I was shocked earlier this week to read Bob McGinn’s column stating otherwise. Our success since 2009 has always been much more about AR than TT/MM. Anyone who couldn’t understand needs the wake up call that last night afforded.

    I slept horrible last night. I so looked forward to last night’s game. After Rodgers left the game I sat there staring at my TV not speaking a word, with a sense of foreboding dread deep inside. Wallace was a HUGE disappointment. The year before Flynn hit FA the Pack (TT) should have begun plotting on finding/drafting a QB to develop behind AR. Instead, they latched on to G Harrell and fell in love with him. And, in the draft, they settled for 7th rounder BJ whomever. Both moves were utter failures. Meanwhile they passed on drafting Russell Wilson three times before SEA stole him in R3. Just like other FA that were sent packing e.g., Cullen Jenkins and Scott Wells, TT had no immediate plan for acquiring/grooming successors. Very tough for me to understand that. Does not TT think these things through? This one is elementary in my book.

    If Rodgers is lost for even two weeks, I fear the season is lost. By that time, not only will the Pack be two games behind in the division but they will be hard pressed to even get in via the WC as both Carolina and the loser of CHI/DET ahead of them in the WC race.

    Packer fans can only pray that today’s news is that AR is questionable for the Eagles game, depending mostly on pain tolerance/management. Anything less than that and TT’s hubris that he doesn’t need a quality young understudy to AR is poppycock at best and incompetence at worst.

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  19. Archie says:

    “Mike McCarthy showed his creative side on the ensuing kickoff by calling an onside kick, which Micah Hyde tipped to Jamari Lattimore for the recovery. The Packers drove down inside the ten, but could not get in the end zone and had to settle for a field goal, but it gave Green Bay a 20-17 lead.”

    Obviously the onsides kick was a good call by MM regardless of whether it worked or not. HOWEVER, with Rodgers out of the game and the defense reeling, settling for a FG there was DUMB. For chissakes, have kayones to gamble at that point rather than meekly kick a FG and accept a slow but sure death thereafter.

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    • Razer says:

      MM did gamble with the on-side kick and gave this team many opportunities to take the reins. Sooner or later the players have to step up and make plays instead of the coach rolling dice. Guys like Quarless need to catch and secure the ball and veterans like Hawk need to NOT watch guys run by him. This wasn’t a coaching failure, this was our guys not making the plays while Chicago guys like McCowan made plays. Look in the mirror.

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      • Archie says:

        With your QB out, his replacement struggling and your defense staggering, you go for that TD on 4th down every time, period.

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        • Two Bears, One Cup says:

          The odds of converting that 4th go down drastically with your QB out. That’s why you don’t go for it.

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  20. GBPDAN says:

    Our D has been playing against terrible offenses. …Kaperprick is not a good passer (look at his stats) but still went all world on us, RG3 when he was 2 games in from a major knee and no preseason, Dalton beat us, Baltimores less then stellar offense, Detroit without megaton, the Browns with weedon, Ponder, McCown……the Packs D fell apart in every 4th qt this year, which is not the makings of a good D. Last night they got a F. But, lets see what they look like at full straight, Clay is a difference maker. The run D has been outstanding all year, but I fear even at full strength they would get worked hard in the passing game against Brees or any other Elite QB.

    Rodgers make this Whole team better, on O and on D.

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  21. Jerry says:

    I saw a post on Facebook,ESPN states A Rod has a small fracture of the Clavicle (collarbone). could miss 3 weeks!

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  22. GBPDAN says:

    I had a great feeling for this team. I was so excited to see them go on a run and finish 13-3, maybe 14-2. The when I saw the Rodgers development last night,I immediately felt my football heart and soul disintegrate. Watching Wallace last night ,compared to Rodgers ,was like going from eating steak and lobster to eating rancid dog food. TT has done a great job with this team, but, has failed miserably on the back up QB situation.

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    • Outis says:

      “TT has done a great job with this team, but, has failed miserably on the back up QB situation.”

      Last night we saw that the Packers are, at best, a mediocre team without AR. So, how can you possibly state that “TT has done a great job with the team”? The secondary was abysmal, and the defense as a whole was terrible with numerous missed tackles. The Bears locked-up the game up an 18-play, 80-yard drive in the fourth quarter that started with 9:48 left and ended with a 27-yard field goal for a seven-point lead with 53 seconds left. They converted on a 4th and 1 from their own 32 yard line, a play that should have been stopped but for another missed tackle. The Packers have many holes in the team to fill besides back-up QB.

      Oh, well, with AR gone and the season lost, at least the Pack will get higher draft picks to fill those holes. Hopefully, TT won’t blow it again.

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      • caesar says:

        good points. Problem is much more than just a lack of Arod. Tackling is abysmal still, every year McCarthy says it gets emphasized in camp yet the problem remains year after year. Some say the D was gassed in the 4th; I say the D hasn’t been good in the 4th all year.

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      • Archie says:

        Good analysis Outis.

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      • Two Bears, One Cup says:

        You cannot watch last night’s game and conclude the Packers are “at best, a mediocre team without AR.” Because we also didn’t have Clay Matthews, Nick Perry, Randall Cobb, Jermichael Finley, Brian Bulaga, and a fully healthy James/Brad Jones. Without all our injured players, yeah, we’re not great. But how many teams can you name that could lose that many starters and still be competitive? And how many of those teams have been picking late in the draft for 20 years because they’re always winning?

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  23. GBPDAN says:

    The Packers situation is just like the Colts, with Payton = playoff team, without Payton = 2-14, with Luck = playoff team

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  24. SchenySchen says:

    The lack of pass rush was what killed the D. If CMIII and Perry are in there, the time allotted to McCown would have been so much less. Mulamba and Palmer are one trick ponies who are decent backups to spell someone for a series but are not developed enough at the moment to play an entire game and be effective. Credit the bears for improving the OL. Seneca Wallace will be better next week after a getting more practice time with the 1′s. I don’t know if that will be enough to win but I expect he will be better. –Hope and pray that Sherrod can unseat Barclay at RT as his play has dropped off weekly. — still not sure why MM didn’t challenge that Quarless catch? Nothing to lose. went to the halftime with 3 timeouts on the board. That confused me. — Kudo’s to the Pack for maintaining a winning team through all the injuries so far but last night was the crack in the dam. Without so many star/starter players, they just can’t do enough. AR is the straw that broke the camels back. Need him to get healthy and make a late run with a healthy squad. Stranger things have happened. Can anyone say 2010? GoPack!

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