Comments for AllGreenBayPackers.Com http://jerseyal.com/GBP Commentary, Opinions, History and Analysis of the Green Bay Packers Tue, 22 May 2012 18:39:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 Comment on Packers Coaches Campen, Slocum Out of the Fire? by CSS http://jerseyal.com/GBP/2012/05/22/packers-coaches-campen-slocum-out-of-the-fire/comment-page-1/#comment-225851 CSS Tue, 22 May 2012 18:39:32 +0000 http://jerseyal.com/GBP/?p=13861#comment-225851 Adjusted sack rate and sacks don't tell the entire story, nor can the regression be solely on the offensive line. McCarthy is a great coach, but he still insists on adhereing on 5-7 step drops and slow developing routes when the defense dictates otherwise. Rodgers also regressed from time-to-time by sitting at the top of said 5-7 step drop. I'm nitpicking, but both are contributing factors with offensive hits, pressures and sacks (yes, they were prolific, but it was still a factor). Very talented overall line. Very talented/athletic special teams core. Quite frankly, neither coach has any excuse for a regression or stagnation in 2012. Adjusted sack rate and sacks don’t tell the entire story, nor can the regression be solely on the offensive line. McCarthy is a great coach, but he still insists on adhereing on 5-7 step drops and slow developing routes when the defense dictates otherwise. Rodgers also regressed from time-to-time by sitting at the top of said 5-7 step drop.

I’m nitpicking, but both are contributing factors with offensive hits, pressures and sacks (yes, they were prolific, but it was still a factor).

Very talented overall line. Very talented/athletic special teams core. Quite frankly, neither coach has any excuse for a regression or stagnation in 2012.

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]]> Comment on Donald Driver: Is It Packer Nation Vs Ted Thompson Part Two? by gavinwca http://jerseyal.com/GBP/2012/05/21/donald-driver-is-it-packer-nation-vs-ted-thompson-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-225850 gavinwca Tue, 22 May 2012 18:32:26 +0000 http://jerseyal.com/GBP/?p=13822#comment-225850 Donald Driver has so much Self Respect,personal honor, and respect for himself,Green Bay Packers, the fans,and the sport. WE Need people like Donald Driver playing Football to show players, fans, and the general public, what a real football hero should strive to be like. Donald may have slowed down a bit, but he has never lost the respect due him for his superior caracter. The sport sufferes evertime real men leave the sport. Bret Farve wishes he had this much self respect. Donald Driver has so much Self Respect,personal honor, and respect for himself,Green Bay Packers, the fans,and the sport. WE Need people like Donald Driver playing Football to show players, fans, and the general public, what a real football hero should strive to be like.

Donald may have slowed down a bit, but he has never lost the respect due him for his superior caracter. The sport sufferes evertime real men leave the sport. Bret Farve wishes he had this much self respect.

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]]> Comment on Packers Coaches Campen, Slocum Out of the Fire? by PackersRS http://jerseyal.com/GBP/2012/05/22/packers-coaches-campen-slocum-out-of-the-fire/comment-page-1/#comment-225845 PackersRS Tue, 22 May 2012 17:44:28 +0000 http://jerseyal.com/GBP/?p=13861#comment-225845 I think it's unfair to peg speed as weakness when it was JPP and Tamba Hali rushing the passer. Those are perennial all-pros. But you are right. To me those two remain below-average coaches, at best, given their track record (only measurable available to fans, and the most important one IMO). However, since there are other important factors in evaluating their work (ability to teach, ability to inspire and demand, ability to devise and properly implement schemes), I can't call for their heads. The recent track record isn't terrible enough to overcome those other factors. There's also the issue of continuity... I think it’s unfair to peg speed as weakness when it was JPP and Tamba Hali rushing the passer. Those are perennial all-pros.

But you are right. To me those two remain below-average coaches, at best, given their track record (only measurable available to fans, and the most important one IMO).

However, since there are other important factors in evaluating their work (ability to teach, ability to inspire and demand, ability to devise and properly implement schemes), I can’t call for their heads. The recent track record isn’t terrible enough to overcome those other factors.

There’s also the issue of continuity…

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]]> Comment on Packers Coaches Campen, Slocum Out of the Fire? by BubbaOne http://jerseyal.com/GBP/2012/05/22/packers-coaches-campen-slocum-out-of-the-fire/comment-page-1/#comment-225837 BubbaOne Tue, 22 May 2012 16:52:43 +0000 http://jerseyal.com/GBP/?p=13861#comment-225837 So the three of you must think MM is an idiot. He thinks these guys are worth being on his staff but you know better. Since the D was ranked 32nd last year does that must mean Dom Capers is incompetent and should be fired? Instead think of it as good players make good coaches. Improve the player stock and the coaches look better. Have injuries like in the secondary last year and someone gets the blame from fans. They like to find what they perceive as the weak link (player or coach) and attack. If you're Packer fans show some of the intelligence we're known for. It's okay to be critical w/o going stupid. So the three of you must think MM is an idiot. He thinks these guys are worth being on his staff but you know better.
Since the D was ranked 32nd last year does that must mean Dom Capers is incompetent and should be fired?

Instead think of it as good players make good coaches. Improve the player stock and the coaches look better. Have injuries like in the secondary last year and someone gets the blame from fans. They like to find what they perceive as the weak link (player or coach) and attack.

If you’re Packer fans show some of the intelligence we’re known for. It’s okay to be critical w/o going stupid.

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]]> Comment on Donald Driver: Is It Packer Nation Vs Ted Thompson Part Two? by oldresorter http://jerseyal.com/GBP/2012/05/21/donald-driver-is-it-packer-nation-vs-ted-thompson-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-225828 oldresorter Tue, 22 May 2012 15:12:11 +0000 http://jerseyal.com/GBP/?p=13822#comment-225828 Can DD get open as a primary option vs a #1 corner? I don't think so. Can he get open as a 4th option vs a nickel or LB? I think so. How much is that worth vs Gurley who probably can get open as a second or third option? I don't know, I have a bunch of faith in MM / TT to decide on this one. I wonder if Gurley might make the roster in place of a TE that we often keep, which would allow us to keep both? Can DD get open as a primary option vs a #1 corner? I don’t think so. Can he get open as a 4th option vs a nickel or LB? I think so. How much is that worth vs Gurley who probably can get open as a second or third option? I don’t know, I have a bunch of faith in MM / TT to decide on this one. I wonder if Gurley might make the roster in place of a TE that we often keep, which would allow us to keep both?

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]]> Comment on Packers Coaches Campen, Slocum Out of the Fire? by Ron LC http://jerseyal.com/GBP/2012/05/22/packers-coaches-campen-slocum-out-of-the-fire/comment-page-1/#comment-225822 Ron LC Tue, 22 May 2012 14:49:29 +0000 http://jerseyal.com/GBP/?p=13861#comment-225822 One big thing that helps the ST image - The New KO Rule. That has made an area of key weakness less impactful when viewing overall performance. More toucbacks and less room to setup returns didn't hurt overall performance. In additon, the kickers performed at high levels last year adding to coverage performance. Can this be attributed to Slocum? Much has to do with personnel decisions. Certainly some credit goes to Slocum and hopefully his trend of improvement continues. Campen is another story. He is tasked with developing an LT that can protect AR's back. Newhouse had a critical weakness in 2011. He can't handle speed rushers. Proof? See the KC game - See the NYG playoff game. His inablilities created the ineffective Offense in both those games. If Campen can develop Newhouse this year, his status should and will rise. One big thing that helps the ST image – The New KO Rule. That has made an area of key weakness less impactful when viewing overall performance. More toucbacks and less room to setup returns didn’t hurt overall performance.

In additon, the kickers performed at high levels last year adding to coverage performance. Can this be attributed to Slocum? Much has to do with personnel decisions. Certainly some credit goes to Slocum and hopefully his trend of improvement continues.

Campen is another story. He is tasked with developing an LT that can protect AR’s back. Newhouse had a critical weakness in 2011. He can’t handle speed rushers. Proof? See the KC game – See the NYG playoff game. His inablilities created the ineffective Offense in both those games. If Campen can develop Newhouse this year, his status should and will rise.

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]]> Comment on Questioning the “Effort” and “Motor” of the Packers’ Nick Perry by JimR_in_DC http://jerseyal.com/GBP/2012/05/21/questioning-the-effort-and-motor-of-the-packers-nick-perry/comment-page-1/#comment-225821 JimR_in_DC Tue, 22 May 2012 14:45:02 +0000 http://jerseyal.com/GBP/?p=13808#comment-225821 We're here to help, Al. :D We’re here to help, Al. :D

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]]> Comment on Packers Coaches Campen, Slocum Out of the Fire? by Smeefers http://jerseyal.com/GBP/2012/05/22/packers-coaches-campen-slocum-out-of-the-fire/comment-page-1/#comment-225820 Smeefers Tue, 22 May 2012 14:37:24 +0000 http://jerseyal.com/GBP/?p=13861#comment-225820 Just because some of the big names arn't talking about it doesn't mean it's not being talked about. Slocum still sucks and he needs to get canned. Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.

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]]> Comment on Packers Coaches Campen, Slocum Out of the Fire? by Rick Racic http://jerseyal.com/GBP/2012/05/22/packers-coaches-campen-slocum-out-of-the-fire/comment-page-1/#comment-225815 Rick Racic Tue, 22 May 2012 14:27:56 +0000 http://jerseyal.com/GBP/?p=13861#comment-225815 I agree. Campen is average at best and Slocum has no clue. It is amazing what some talent can do for both O-line and ST. Maybe the players can figure it out and those coaches can stay out of the way. I agree. Campen is average at best and Slocum has no clue. It is amazing what some talent can do for both O-line and ST. Maybe the players can figure it out and those coaches can stay out of the way.

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]]> Comment on Donald Driver: Is It Packer Nation Vs Ted Thompson Part Two? by Bobadger http://jerseyal.com/GBP/2012/05/21/donald-driver-is-it-packer-nation-vs-ted-thompson-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-225813 Bobadger Tue, 22 May 2012 14:22:05 +0000 http://jerseyal.com/GBP/?p=13822#comment-225813 Ted Thompson's decision process is more complex than many give him credit for. He replaced Favre with a younger QB who had a tremedous upside as a starting QB. Had Favre not "retired" before unretiring Bret would have returned as the starting QB. But he was wavering between playing/not playing and it was too important a position decision to allow an aging Prima Donna to complicate. In the case of Driver, we are talking about a 4th or 5th receiver position and a choice between Driver, who is a great team leader, and an untested, undrafted rookie. My guess is that Driver comes back this year. BTW, if Thompson was the cold, heartless GM many assume he is, there is no way that he would have released Nick Collins! Ted Thompson’s decision process is more complex than many give him credit for. He replaced Favre with a younger QB who had a tremedous upside as a starting QB. Had Favre not “retired” before unretiring Bret would have returned as the starting QB. But he was wavering between playing/not playing and it was too important a position decision to allow an aging Prima Donna to complicate. In the case of Driver, we are talking about a 4th or 5th receiver position and a choice between Driver, who is a great team leader, and an untested, undrafted rookie. My guess is that Driver comes back this year. BTW, if Thompson was the cold, heartless GM many assume he is, there is no way that he would have released Nick Collins!

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